Saw Ed Young today on YouTube…
I have mad respect for this guy and Fellowship Church. I’ve visited, got a personal tour from Anthony Coppedge a couple years ago(thank you very much). I’ve read the books, listened to the teaching, used some of the resources, even taught some of his messages. I just want to be clear about the respect issue.
I do however have a little understanding of what it’s like to be on the inside of church politics. Men (& women) can become extremely powerful, especially when they are experiencing rapid growth, popularity, getting rated in Outreach magazine, selling books, speaking as authority on any issue, etc. Both lead pastors and/or staff members. I’m not sure who Ed is referring to his talk, but he mentions that in both cases, these “pirates” took 20 years to build a “kingdom” before going and planting. That fascinates me because a majority of church planters that I know, or have heard of are in their 20’s & 30’s.
This talk is riddled with enough church euphemisms to get my gag reflex going:
- the “God Card”
- church transplants
- “are they legit or from church splits?” (reminiscent of “if it don’t fit, you must acquit)
- moving/stealing sheep
- blessed subtraction
- boutique churches
- shoot our wounded (this sounded completely out of context…?)
He says “if you’re big and bad enough to go out and start your own church…”. That scares me. Anyone who starts a church thinking they are “big and bad enough” are obviously not operating out of a broken heart for people, but out of pride, thinking that you can actually give God a hand.
To me, this little talk sounds kind of reactionary, and a little scattered (much like this post I suppose). I do agree with Ed that pastors and staff shouldn’t as a rule, create a kingdom within a church with the purpose of going and planting a church down the street; that’s blatantly wrong and works against the mission of the local church. On the flip side I think there are issues with power, pride, loyalty, and insecurity from church leadership (pastors & staff) that create unhealthy atmosphere’s within today’s churches. I think these issues are never talked about because they are crushed or labeled as “disloyalty” before they can be discussed in a healthy forum.
We’re all flawed. What do you think about these issues?